Two things: First is the obvious sadism, but second, if this started spreading around from May of 2019 and people weren't dying in droves, it's not COVID that's killing people, but the reaction to COVID. You take Sweden as a "control" group experiment (no extra deaths even though they basically lived life through this whole thing normally with only the most minimal concessions in early 2020) and the fact that we were clearly living with COVID for the later part of 2019 and early 2020 w/o people dying in the streets and overrunning hospitals, and what you have to conclude is that we have killed people not by doing too little to counter COVID but by doing too much.
What amazes me is that this level of analysis is being done and disseminated in public. In normal times, we would have expected this type of analysis to be performed by various intelligence agencies.
Now? I can’t shake the feeling that the agencies really aren’t doing analysis like this anymore. The public and private companies are.
If true, this effectively puts the last nail in the coffin of the idea that it was a deliberate release as biowarfare. A deliberately released bioweapon wouldn't have been released locally first, wouldn't have taken a year to reach its enemy targets, and wouldn't have prompted these panicked control responses.
It is therefore further support of the idea that Sars-Cov-2 got out accidentally, the Chinese government tried to control it at first with help from sympathetic international agencies like at Event 201, and when they realised had failed they decided to implement their biowarfare plans (like the fake videos) belatedly. Fuck-up, followed by opportunism.
Thanks for more great detective work and another delicious mystery for us to sink our teeth into, eugyppius.
What I find perplexing is why the PCR test would have been used if this were a coverup operation. The value of the PCR test to TPTB is its ability to “find almost anything in anybody,” as its inventor Kary Mullis said prior to his timely demise in August 2019.
The PCR test—as it has been deployed in this manufactured crisis—is all about inflating an imaginary or negligible threat to terrorizing proportions as justification for unleashing authoritarian measures and bilking the public out of trillions of dollars. Why would they consider it “the methodology of choice for pathogen detection” and genuinely use it as an assessment tool for an outbreak they were trying to keep hidden? Is it possible the stockpiling of PCR tests was made in anticipation of the coming crisis they were in the process of concocting?
For those interested in an exhaustively documented report on PCR tests prepared by a former principal researcher at Queensland Health, see the Petitions section of my Down Under Edition of Recommendations Roundup (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/recommendations-roundup-2-down-under-41b), where you’ll find more details about the author as well as two other comprehensive reports on masks and lockdowns.
I believe that I contracted corona when I spent nearly 3 weeks in an apart-hotel in Sydney in Nov 2019. Most of the guests were Chinese...... I guessed at the time that it was influenza due to the body aches and sudden onset, and that the Chinese spread it to me from the northern hemisphere because November in Sydney is far outside their flu season with temps in the 30s. I think that I have gotten influenza twice in my lifetime; the latest was possibly during H1N1 in April 2009, but it could have just been a bad cold.
Also, outside Washington DC in Springfield, VA there was an outbreak in an elderly care home where 60 out of 260 became ill with a respiratory disease. 23 were hospitalized and 3 died. The local government became very defensive in 2020 when rumors started stating that tests found rhinovirus and haemophilus influenzae (a bacterium). Why the wouldn't rerun samples in 2020 was puzzling. Rhinovirus can kill very frail elderly, but is usually much milder than for example the common cold coronaviruses. It is also ubiquitous if you do PCR testing. I recall a study in Holland that showed that adults with kids typically tested positive via PCR for at least two rhinoviruses in the winter, usually without being ill. I believe that h. influenzae are carried by many people and it is an opportunistic pathogen. Actual HiB disease is very uncommon even among adults who have not been vaccinated.
This is from the local govt in Virginia, which is very left wing following a typical "fact checking" narrative:
Fact: Testing of specimens collected during the outbreak of respiratory illness at Greenspring in July 2019 showed several bacteria, including Haemophilus influenzae (H. flu) and rhinovirus, the cause of the common cold. There is no need to re-investigate the outbreak. At the time, the Virginia Department of Health put out an alert about an increase in respiratory illnesses in long-term care facilities .
The first human cases of COVID-19 were identified in Wuhan City, China in December 2019. At this stage, it is not possible to determine precisely how humans in China were initially infected. The first confirmed case of COVID-19 in the United States was reported on January 20, 2020 in Snohomish County, Washington and the first confirmed case in Virginia was reported on March 7, 2020. WHO Source , VDH Source
I don't think Adalja himself is that bad. I listened to a few hours of his talks near the beginning of covid awareness in the US. He repeatedly warned against panicking too much and copying China's response. He said locking down anything more than large concerts/events was unnecessary, masks and worrying about sanitizing surfaces and touching stuff was largely unnecessary (even though he was pushing the droplet theory at the time). He's an Ayn Rand flavored libertarian. When all the messaging changed to masks and lockdowns, he receded from high profile public appearances, and has basically stayed low profile since. I think he probably opposes all this, now more than then, but won't speak out to save his career.
I wonder if getting lost in facts/abstractions is an excuse to avoid taking action, a Stockholm Syndrome
"Civil wars and similar large-scale violence bring death, injury, disease, displacement, and misery. The impairment of the state diminishes its provision of protection for people and property and of basic social services, such as health care and education. Private economic activity becomes difficult or impossible."
thanks Eugyppius .. mate, I have a rather large and relavatory document to share .. but no contact for you .. if you would be so kind .. many thanks, JulesOnTheBeach
It sounds plausible, but I still don't see why Wuhan Institute of Virology staff would have been tested later than animals and the general community. Wouldn't they have been the first to get sick?
One thing is for sure: the report points to China as the source of the virus. This company consists of former Intelligence personnel and thus might harbour a purpose behind its release.
November 2019 a sickness spread through my workplace. Everyone got it. Some bad and some mild (like myself)
Fatigue. Headache. Upper respiratory infection that doctors couldn’t figure out. Several of my coworkers ended up on 3 or 4 rounds of antibiotics because nothing was working.
My husband was sick in Sept after traveling via plane. It was here way before they will acknowledge it.
I am really not sure what to do now. Here in New Zealand there is a big push today, and a Telethon ("Vax-a-Thon") to get people to have the jab. My brother has finally given in and got it and my folks are also considering it now, too. I am not sure how much longer I can hold out...
Is the entire Bloomberg School at JH anything other than an intelligence institute for whatever borderless government is running this whole show? Either way it gets exhausting to process these drip-feed “revelations” that seem to have no other purpose than reinforcing the lie that this is really a super-bat-lab-monster-virus that warrants even 1/1000000 of the attention that ended up being paid to it. Were any of these tests even used? Were they in preparation for an Italy / New York scenario that never happened? Were they for an unrelated outbreak that was latched onto for shifting blame to China, because “China virus scary”? Yawn.
Silly. The Wuhan pandemic really started in mid-January, the New York one three months later, the Peruvian and Russian ones a month after that, and the South African one a month after the Russian one. If the pandemic started in May 2019, there would have been major and visible outbreaks all over the globe in November 2019 -and the virus would not have been contained in China, South Korea, Thailand, Vietnam, Taiwan, etc. (as well as Eastern Europe, Uruguay, Cuba, and much of the Middle East).
Two things: First is the obvious sadism, but second, if this started spreading around from May of 2019 and people weren't dying in droves, it's not COVID that's killing people, but the reaction to COVID. You take Sweden as a "control" group experiment (no extra deaths even though they basically lived life through this whole thing normally with only the most minimal concessions in early 2020) and the fact that we were clearly living with COVID for the later part of 2019 and early 2020 w/o people dying in the streets and overrunning hospitals, and what you have to conclude is that we have killed people not by doing too little to counter COVID but by doing too much.
What amazes me is that this level of analysis is being done and disseminated in public. In normal times, we would have expected this type of analysis to be performed by various intelligence agencies.
Now? I can’t shake the feeling that the agencies really aren’t doing analysis like this anymore. The public and private companies are.
If true, this effectively puts the last nail in the coffin of the idea that it was a deliberate release as biowarfare. A deliberately released bioweapon wouldn't have been released locally first, wouldn't have taken a year to reach its enemy targets, and wouldn't have prompted these panicked control responses.
It is therefore further support of the idea that Sars-Cov-2 got out accidentally, the Chinese government tried to control it at first with help from sympathetic international agencies like at Event 201, and when they realised had failed they decided to implement their biowarfare plans (like the fake videos) belatedly. Fuck-up, followed by opportunism.
Thanks for more great detective work and another delicious mystery for us to sink our teeth into, eugyppius.
What I find perplexing is why the PCR test would have been used if this were a coverup operation. The value of the PCR test to TPTB is its ability to “find almost anything in anybody,” as its inventor Kary Mullis said prior to his timely demise in August 2019.
The PCR test—as it has been deployed in this manufactured crisis—is all about inflating an imaginary or negligible threat to terrorizing proportions as justification for unleashing authoritarian measures and bilking the public out of trillions of dollars. Why would they consider it “the methodology of choice for pathogen detection” and genuinely use it as an assessment tool for an outbreak they were trying to keep hidden? Is it possible the stockpiling of PCR tests was made in anticipation of the coming crisis they were in the process of concocting?
For those interested in an exhaustively documented report on PCR tests prepared by a former principal researcher at Queensland Health, see the Petitions section of my Down Under Edition of Recommendations Roundup (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/recommendations-roundup-2-down-under-41b), where you’ll find more details about the author as well as two other comprehensive reports on masks and lockdowns.
I believe that I contracted corona when I spent nearly 3 weeks in an apart-hotel in Sydney in Nov 2019. Most of the guests were Chinese...... I guessed at the time that it was influenza due to the body aches and sudden onset, and that the Chinese spread it to me from the northern hemisphere because November in Sydney is far outside their flu season with temps in the 30s. I think that I have gotten influenza twice in my lifetime; the latest was possibly during H1N1 in April 2009, but it could have just been a bad cold.
Also, outside Washington DC in Springfield, VA there was an outbreak in an elderly care home where 60 out of 260 became ill with a respiratory disease. 23 were hospitalized and 3 died. The local government became very defensive in 2020 when rumors started stating that tests found rhinovirus and haemophilus influenzae (a bacterium). Why the wouldn't rerun samples in 2020 was puzzling. Rhinovirus can kill very frail elderly, but is usually much milder than for example the common cold coronaviruses. It is also ubiquitous if you do PCR testing. I recall a study in Holland that showed that adults with kids typically tested positive via PCR for at least two rhinoviruses in the winter, usually without being ill. I believe that h. influenzae are carried by many people and it is an opportunistic pathogen. Actual HiB disease is very uncommon even among adults who have not been vaccinated.
This is from the local govt in Virginia, which is very left wing following a typical "fact checking" narrative:
Fact: Testing of specimens collected during the outbreak of respiratory illness at Greenspring in July 2019 showed several bacteria, including Haemophilus influenzae (H. flu) and rhinovirus, the cause of the common cold. There is no need to re-investigate the outbreak. At the time, the Virginia Department of Health put out an alert about an increase in respiratory illnesses in long-term care facilities .
The first human cases of COVID-19 were identified in Wuhan City, China in December 2019. At this stage, it is not possible to determine precisely how humans in China were initially infected. The first confirmed case of COVID-19 in the United States was reported on January 20, 2020 in Snohomish County, Washington and the first confirmed case in Virginia was reported on March 7, 2020. WHO Source , VDH Source
I don't think Adalja himself is that bad. I listened to a few hours of his talks near the beginning of covid awareness in the US. He repeatedly warned against panicking too much and copying China's response. He said locking down anything more than large concerts/events was unnecessary, masks and worrying about sanitizing surfaces and touching stuff was largely unnecessary (even though he was pushing the droplet theory at the time). He's an Ayn Rand flavored libertarian. When all the messaging changed to masks and lockdowns, he receded from high profile public appearances, and has basically stayed low profile since. I think he probably opposes all this, now more than then, but won't speak out to save his career.
I wonder if getting lost in facts/abstractions is an excuse to avoid taking action, a Stockholm Syndrome
"Civil wars and similar large-scale violence bring death, injury, disease, displacement, and misery. The impairment of the state diminishes its provision of protection for people and property and of basic social services, such as health care and education. Private economic activity becomes difficult or impossible."
https://documents1.worldbank.org/curated/en/387041468194641798/pdf/wps6397.pdf
thanks Eugyppius .. mate, I have a rather large and relavatory document to share .. but no contact for you .. if you would be so kind .. many thanks, JulesOnTheBeach
Your beliefs about the start date align with The Ethical Skeptic on twitter, except he believes the virus might have been circulating in 2018.
But wouldn't any big outbreak be also supported by mobility data and other measures
that could be verified?
If there was an outbreak, wouldn't Chinese cutoff Hubei from the rest of the country?
The flights to/from Wuhan kept going until 2020.
Lots of westerners were in Wuhan in 2019 (including military for the Military World Games),
and wouldn't they notice something if there was something extraordinary happening?
So, how did China "beat" SARS-Cov2 (if they really did it)?
It sounds plausible, but I still don't see why Wuhan Institute of Virology staff would have been tested later than animals and the general community. Wouldn't they have been the first to get sick?
One thing is for sure: the report points to China as the source of the virus. This company consists of former Intelligence personnel and thus might harbour a purpose behind its release.
November 2019 a sickness spread through my workplace. Everyone got it. Some bad and some mild (like myself)
Fatigue. Headache. Upper respiratory infection that doctors couldn’t figure out. Several of my coworkers ended up on 3 or 4 rounds of antibiotics because nothing was working.
My husband was sick in Sept after traveling via plane. It was here way before they will acknowledge it.
I am really not sure what to do now. Here in New Zealand there is a big push today, and a Telethon ("Vax-a-Thon") to get people to have the jab. My brother has finally given in and got it and my folks are also considering it now, too. I am not sure how much longer I can hold out...
Is the entire Bloomberg School at JH anything other than an intelligence institute for whatever borderless government is running this whole show? Either way it gets exhausting to process these drip-feed “revelations” that seem to have no other purpose than reinforcing the lie that this is really a super-bat-lab-monster-virus that warrants even 1/1000000 of the attention that ended up being paid to it. Were any of these tests even used? Were they in preparation for an Italy / New York scenario that never happened? Were they for an unrelated outbreak that was latched onto for shifting blame to China, because “China virus scary”? Yawn.
Silly. The Wuhan pandemic really started in mid-January, the New York one three months later, the Peruvian and Russian ones a month after that, and the South African one a month after the Russian one. If the pandemic started in May 2019, there would have been major and visible outbreaks all over the globe in November 2019 -and the virus would not have been contained in China, South Korea, Thailand, Vietnam, Taiwan, etc. (as well as Eastern Europe, Uruguay, Cuba, and much of the Middle East).